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Thank you for making sense of this madness! I bought new sunscreen this morning after reading your post! The info is greatly appreciated.

You are en FUEGO! Is this a 2nd tri energy burst : )!?

Janelle -- Thanks for the links! I always like to read the other side of the story...but in this case, I'm still unconvinced. Sure, the retinyl palmitate studies were done on mice (not humans)...but that is just barely comforting. Obviously more studies need to be done...it's just a shame that the mouse study was done 10 years ago with no follow up. Until we have better (and more comforting data), I'm avoiding it. :)

Melissa - I'm glad you found some!! Denver is almost completely sold out!

M - Yes. Probably. :)

Thanks for this super helpful post - was having major dilemmas about sunscreen the other day and I wish I'd read this earlier!

Micronized zinc oxide seems to be the way to go. I am trying to choose between these 2 brands. Each has a slightly different story...

http://www.badgerbalm.com/t-sunscreen_zinc_oxide_nanoparticles.aspx

Badger (above) seems to have a special coating for their zinc, and some of their zinc might fall into the larger spectrum of the nano range, but they seem to want this by design...
http://www.badgerbalm.com/c-6-sun-care.aspx

It's unclear if the formulation from Kabana
http://www.kabanaskincare.com/ingredientsdetails.htm#6
will also have the handful of zinc particles in the 70 to 100 nano size range like Badger..

Also, Kabana doesn't seem to coat their zinc, but aparantly that's because they use water in the formula as opposed to Badger which does not.

http://www.kabanaskincare.com/products.php?cat=8

I get the feeling that Kabana has a slighly safer formula, but Badger's might stay on longer and offer better sun protection.

I've been trying to find a safe sunscreen for too long. I've got it narrowed down to the products from the above companies and of course the tinosorb s and tinosorb m types in Europe.

It seems many brands using tinosorb also have titanium dioxide which I have decided to avoid. Does anyone know of a brand in Europe that uses tinosorb but is also sensitive to not using a bunch of other chemicals in the formula?

I fond Heliabrine Solar Defense, here,
http://beautyexpress24.com/good/Heliabrine-Solar-Defense-50-SPF-50
It lists active ingredients as
Tinosorb®S and also
Encapsulated UVA and UVB filters (whatever that is?)
Now after ordering it, I realize it doesn't list the inactive ingredients online. So who knows what else I'll be getting?

In closing, I am sick of companies making products designed to do something with no regard to the consequences of their ingredients or designs!!!!

Peace

I should add that Badger's position is that > 30 nano size is safe for those with healthy skin... I take this to mean you wouldn't want to put the lotion on a cut or open wound as that might provide a path for the zinc oxide to get into your bloodstreem... Of course the same holds true for any sunscreen.

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